Erinnert sich noch jemand daran, dass die Franzosen ziemlich angepisst waren, weil Australien vor einiger Zeit einen eigentlich schon eingetüteten Deal mit Frankreich über neue nuklear getriebene (Jagd-) U-Boote platzen ließ, und sich statt dessen von den Amerikanern deren eigene Boote andrehen ließ?
Australia chose Aukus and now it faces the prospect of having no submarine capability for at least a decade
The provision of American Virginia-class subs depends on US industrial development, military needs, politics – and possibly Trump. Australia has no agency or leverage over any of these
[...] Scott Morrison’s big idea in Aukus was to cancel a submarine construction program with France which would have given us new boats to replace the Collins-class subs as they retired in the 2030s, with a partnership to build new (as yet design incomplete) nuclear-powered “Aukus SSN” submarines with the UK assisted by the United States, the first of which would not be available, assuming all went on time, until the 2040s.
But how do you fill the capability gap left by the retirement of the Collins-class submarines in the 2030s? Most big defence projects run late and the UK contractor, BAE, has consistently run late and over budget on its naval projects, including the most recent UK Astute-class submarine and the Australian Hunter-class frigate.
The solution was to acquire three, possibly five Virginia-class submarines from the US, with the first arriving in 2032 and the next two in 2035 and 2037, with an additional two if the Aukus SSNs are late.
They would be a mix of secondhand boats, with 20 years of life left, and new boats. These would cover our submarine needs until the Aukus SSNs were constructed. [...]
Es stellt sich allerdings heraus, dass die Amerikaner nicht mal mehr ausreichende industriekapazitäten haben, um ihre eigenen U-Boote zu warten, geschweige denn fünf neue davon für die australische Kundschaft zu produzieren. Die Australier sind jetzt ein bisschen irritiert, weil sie eigentlich ursprünglich dachten, ihre eigne stark veraltete U-Boot-Flotte bis Anfang der 2030er - bevor sie ihre ebenfalls gepanten eigenen, in UK produzierten AUKUS-Boote bekommen sollten - mit den Zukäufen flott zu halten, jetzt aber eher bis mindestens 2040 damit warten müssten - allerdings auch nur dann, wenn die Amerikaner bis dahin ihre eigenen Kapazitäten weit genug ausgebaut haben, und wenn sich - z.B. durch einen Konflikt mit China, für den auch die Australier eine eigene U-Boot-Flotte zu brauchen glauben - nicht noch größerer Eigenbedarf in den USA auftut.
Alles anzeigen[...] If submarines were like iPhones and you could buy them off the shelf that would all make sense, but as it happens the US navy is short of submarines. It has at least 17 fewer Virginias than it currently needs. Not only is US industry not building enough to meet the US navy’s needs, it cannot maintain a satisfactory rate of repair and maintenance of the submarines it has. As of last September, 33% of the SSN force was in depot maintenance or idle awaiting maintenance, versus a target of 20%.
At the moment the US is completing between 1.2 and 1.3 Virginia-class submarines a year. This year the US navy has cut its order for new Virginias from two boats to one in recognition of the inability of industry currently to meet its needs.
In order to meet the US navy’s own stated needs and catch up on its submarine shortage, this rate of production needs to grow to two boats a year by 2028 and 2.33 boats a year shortly after that. In order to provide boats to Australia, as contemplated by Aukus, that higher rate of production would need to be maintained.
The Aukus legislation passed by Congress last December specifically states that submarines cannot be sold to Australia unless the president certifies that their sale will not detract from the needs of the US navy. This is stating no more than political common sense; the US will not sell Virginias to Australia unless the US navy avows that it does not need them.
This means that in order to get to that point you have to assume the rate of Virginia-class submarine construction will nearly double over the next four years, the submarine needs of the US navy will not increase and that by the early 2030s the navy will be sufficiently relaxed about the China threat that it is prepared to reduce its own submarine fleet by three and maybe five of its most valuable underwater assets.
Many US defence experts, such as the former Trump-era assistant secretary for defence Elbridge Colby, say it is just not realistic to expect the US navy to diminish its own fleet of such vital assets during a period when they believe war is a very real possibility.
The provision of Virginia-class submarines to the Royal Australian Navy depends on US industrial development, US military needs and US politics. Australia has no agency or leverage over any of these factors. So much for Australian sovereignty. [...]
Die Amerikaner haben aber schon eine tolle Idee dazu, wie Australien trotzdem nicht ohne U-Boote bleiben muss:
Is there a plan B? Well, nobody in Canberra seems to have one, but the US certainly does. It is set out, in considerable detail, in an official research paper prepared by the US Congress and is described as a “Military Division of Labor” whereby Australia would have no submarines. The US navy would base some of their own in Perth, at the submarine base we are building for them, and Australia would invest the money it has saved into other capabilities. Or it could just hand over more cash to the US government – pay for our own protection perhaps, like South Korea or Japan do.
This arrangement could continue until such time as the Aukus SSNs, to be built in partnership with the UK, arrive (some time in the 2040s we hope) or continue for ever. Royal Australian Navy officers and sailors could perhaps be included in the crew of some of these Virginias.[...]
Trump’s second-favourite slogan is “America First” and that is very much the zeitgeist in Washington nowadays, on both sides of the aisle. So if there is any contention or suggestion that the US navy cannot spare Virginias for Australia, there is no mystery where Trump will land.
It seems to me the most likely outcomes will be that the Virginias will not be available to Australia because the US navy cannot spare them and the Aukus SSNs will almost certainly be late. This would mean an extended capability gap from the early 2030s when Australia will have a diminishing and then no submarine fleet. Even someone with the most optimistic perspective would have to acknowledge this scenario was a serious possibility. [...]
Also die USA lassen sich einfach von den Australiern - natürlich auf deren eigene Kosten - einen schönen neuen U-Boot-Hafen in Perth bauen, der für ihre fetten Vrginia-Class Jagd-U-Boote geeignet ist, stationieren dann erst mal auf unbestimmte Zeit ihre eigenen dort und lassen vielleicht auch ein paar australische Seeleute mitfahren, damit die so ein Ding wenigstens auch mal von innen gesehen haben. Ein voller Erfolg also für die Australier.
[...] We could look back and reflect that with the now-cancelled Attack-class submarine program with France, Australia was entirely in control of its own destiny. All of the relevant IP had been transferred to Australia, where the submarines were being built. Their completion depended on us. France had no possible motive or reason to be anything other than supportive. The design was established and nuclear-powered versions of the submarine were already in the water. Compared with Aukus it was a much lower-risk, and lower-cost, exercise.
But it is now too late to revive the French partnership. There was a window of opportunity to do that after the election of the Albanese government, but it resolved to stick with Morrison’s policy and the risks it carried.
At the time Aukus was announced I was concerned the nuclear-powered submarines, using weapons-grade uranium provided by the US or the UK, would not be able to be operated without foreign supervision and support. This was not, to my way of thinking, a sovereign submarine capability.
We now have to face the real prospect, for much of the next decade and beyond, of not having any Australian submarine capability at all. [...]
Ja gut, aber dafür haben sie eben eine ganz tolle Wertepartnerschaft mit den transpazifischen Freunden.