Der SARS-CoV-2-Thread

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Ich vertraue doch nicht der "Wissenschaft". Und schon gleich gar nicht vertraue ich einem sogenannten "Test" der von diesem Merkel-Schergen Drosten entwickelt wurde.

Mein Körper gehört mir und ich weiß selbst wann er krank, und was gut für ihn ist!

https://www.mdr.de/nachrichten…rfachinfektionen-100.html

https://www.mdr.de/nachrichten…ssig-100-downloadFile.pdf

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Das ist interessanterweise in den USA ohne Witz ein wichtiges Kriterium inzwischen, wenn man Corona-Folgen betrachtet, weil Republikaner tendenziell weniger geimpft sind, weniger zum Arzt gehen, wenn sie Covid haben [...] - und deshalb leider statistisch gesehen auch häufiger sterben. Also das Risiko, an Covid zu sterben, ist für die, die Republikaner wählen, im Vergleich zu denen die Demokraten wählen, ähnlich erhöht, als wenn man eine dunkle Hautfarbe hat im Vergleich zu den weißen. Das ist schon brutal, aber das ist natürlich nur statistisches Risiko.

Zitat von Hohli

Kiss me

Nur mit einer Klarsichtfolie dazwischen : )

Da geht's ja sauber zu im Reich der Mitte:

Da hat sich die Demo doch mal richtig gelohnt. 😟

Aber hey, die machen das voll toll da...wurde hier zumindest von einigen immer wieder wiederholt...

Voll die Vorbilder...

Naja auf ins nächste Jahr mit kaputten Lieferketten.

Also, ich würde der westlichen Berichterstattung nicht vertrauen. Die werden das sicherlich maximal schlimm darstellen. Und dieser Eric Feigl-Ding lag meiner Erinnerung nach nicht per se falsch während der Pandemie, war aber zum Beginn der Übergangsphase in die Endemie in den USA tendenziell zu alarmistisch unterwegs. Man beachte auch, wie die Anwürfe von den tyrannischen Maßnahmen zur tyrannischen Maßnahmenlosigkeit wechseln.

Das gesagt, durch die bisherige offenbar erfolgreiche CoViD-19-Unterdrückung wird man eine hohe Zahl von Fällen bekommen und es werden auch eine Menge Menschen sterben, beeinflusst von Risikoprofil, Restmaßnahmen und Impfquote. Die Impfquote könnte sicherlich besser sein, aber die weiter geltenden moderierenden Maßnahmen sind glaube ich durchaus signifkant.

Zitat von nachdenklich

Aber hey, die machen das voll toll da...wurde hier zumindest von einigen immer wieder wiederholt...

Voll die Vorbilder...

Naja auf ins nächste Jahr mit kaputten Lieferketten.

Na ja, irgendwie lief es ja anscheinend besser, bevor sie unkontrolliert gelockert haben oder mussten.

Zitat von Roy

Na ja, irgendwie lief es ja anscheinend besser, bevor sie unkontrolliert gelockert haben oder mussten.

Ka, so wie ich das von weit weit weg mitbekomme, lief es halt insofern, als man sich bzw seine Bevölkerung gut abgeschottet hat. Aber das halt keine dauerhafte Lösung, sowohl für die zivile Bevölkerung, als auch für die Wirtschaft. Es sei denn man kann die Zeit nutzen das Virus auszurotten oder entsprechende Medikamente entwickeln und dann in passender Menge vorrätig haben.

Wenn du jetzt meinst, dass der Fehler eine zu unkontrollierte Öffnung/Lockerung ist, dann müsste man mal fragen warum das so unkontrolliert passiert und was bei mehr Kontrolle passieren würde?

Ein gewisses Maß an Kontrolle scheint halt auf Grund von einer Menge interner sowie externer Faktoren über die Zeit immer schwerer.

Die akute CoViD-19-Welle hat übrigens Anfang November eingesetzt, Also anderthalb Monate bevor die Maßnahmen offiziell gelockert wurden. Und parallel zu den Protesten. Ich nehme an da war die Lockerung schon unterwegs.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/

https://economictimes.indiatim…/articleshow/96413256.cms

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China may be struggling to keep a tally of Covid-19 infections as the country experiences a big spike in cases, a senior World Health Organization official said on Wednesday, amid concerns about a lack of data from the country.

Official figures from China have become an unreliable guide as less testing is being done across the country following the recent easing of the strict "zero-Covid" policy.

"In China, what's been reported is relatively low numbers of cases in ICUs, but anecdotally ICUs are filling up," WHO's emergencies director Mike Ryan said.

"I wouldn't like to say that China is actively not telling us what's going on. I think they're behind the curve."

Dozens of hearses queued outside a Beijing crematorium on Wednesday, even as China reported no new Covid-19 deaths in its growing outbreak, sparking criticism of its virus accounting as the capital braces for a surge in cases.

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Nun wenn ich mich richtig entsinne, war eine der Lockerungen, dass man weniger Tests durchführen muss. Das ist wohl auch der Grund, warum die Zahlen im Dezember schon wieder gefallen sind.

von Mitte November (16.11.)

https://www.aljazeera.com/gall…vid-tests-amid-discontent

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Multiple Chinese cities have cancelled routine mass COVD tests this week, days after Beijing announced limited relaxations of its strict zero-COVID policy which raised hopes of China’s eventual reopening.

The National Health Commission (NHC) on Friday issued 20 rules for “optimising” zero-COVID, where certain restrictions were relaxed to limit its social and economic impact.

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The new rules say the “scope of nucleic acid testing shall not be expanded” and that mass testing will not be conducted in areas without outbreaks except for “key personnel and sites of employment”.

The measures also urged local governments to “correct unscientific practices such as two or three tests per day”.

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wohl aktuellste Änderung (07.12.)

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/1…a-zero-covid-changes.html

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Here are the highlights from the announcement.

Testing

The new rules move China away from the use of P.C.R. tests and digital passes used to indicate possible exposure to the virus. Mass testing will no longer be conducted in areas that are not considered “high risk,” a designation for regions that have positive cases. The high-risk category is now limited to buildings, units, floors or households, rather than encompassing neighborhoods.

P.C.R. tests and health codes will no longer be checked for travel between regions in China.

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Zitat von Roy

Na ja, irgendwie lief es ja anscheinend besser, bevor sie unkontrolliert gelockert haben oder mussten.

Wie "besser" es so lief und ob das "besser" nich auch irgendwie das "unkontrolliert" mindestens mit verursacht hat

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/1…a-zero-covid-changes.html

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rule that forced many infected people to stay in makeshift isolation facilities and hospitals

Hier ist bezeichnend, was da die Lockerung ist, also im Umkehrschluss, was davor galt. Und das mit den Notausgängen is auch nochmal explizit hervorzuheben.

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The measures circumscribe the power of local officials to impose lockdowns and ensure they are lifted quickly. Local authorities may still lock down buildings in the event that a positive case is detected, but they cannot restrict movement and suspend business operations in regions outside a specified “high risk” designation. For “high-risk” areas, the guidelines mandate lockdowns to be lifted if no new positive cases are detected for five consecutive days.

In locked down areas, the authorities are strictly prevented from blocking fire escapes and public exits, a possible concession to recent protesters. Blocked exits were widely discussed as a principal cause of excess deaths during a building fire in the western region of Xinjiang, a disaster that laid the groundwork for mass unrest in over two dozens cities last week.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/1…/china-covid-testing.html

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Desperate to isolate recent outbreaks, health workers have resorted to barricading buildings and even cordoning off single individuals in public spaces. Nearly two hundred million people are in some form of lockdown in China. In every village, town and city, testing requirements have become more burdensome and the punishments for failing to comply more severe.

Yet with the testing apparatus growing bigger and bigger, the resources to support it have come under more financial strain, and the government, which funds most of the testing, has shown signs that it is struggling to pay up.

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Local authorities in provinces such as Shanxi and Jiangxi have already diverted money from public projects in order to fund pandemic monitoring and control. In some cities, civil servants have faced pay cuts. In others, bonuses for officials have been frozen to help prop up testing.

And yet there are signs from some of China’s biggest testing companies that there is a cash shortfall.

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She is mostly concerned that she will be caught in a lockdown or sent to a government isolation facility if she tests positive. “That’s why I try to do as little as possible.”

To force people to submit to the swab, the authorities have reached for more punitive measures. In the south, north and east of China, the police have detained people for days for skipping P.C.R. tests, sometimes locking them up for more than a week.

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https://economictimes.indiatim…/articleshow/96356799.cms

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Now, the situation is markedly different. For the first time since 1989, China will miss its annual gross domestic product (GDP) growth target, said Graham.



Officially, Beijing points to the sweeping Covid-19 restrictions it has implemented across the country to explain the slowdown, reported Atlantic Council.



Meanwhile, China's extreme Covid-19 testing policies are projected to give a blow to the country's Gross Domestic Product (GDP) by about 1.5 per cent, said media reports.



China has ramped up its testing with the country now requiring nucleic acid tests done within the past 48 hours just to enter public spaces, offices and even schools. However, it is estimated that the testing could cost some 1.7 trillion yuan a year in China's major cities alone, or about 1.5 per cent of the country's gross domestic product.



Moreover, the emotional toll of China's 'Zero Covid' strategy has also taken a toll on the Chinese people. This emotional toll has outweighed everything else. But it is interesting to note that China is still insisting that these stern policies are the only way to go, reported Straits Times.



The world is now more than two years into the pandemic and with this China's Polymerase chain reaction (PCR) tests, quarantines and flash lockdowns have almost become a part of "normal" life.



Meanwhile, nothing has rocked the Chinese society under President Xi Jinping's leadership to date more than the 'Zero Covid' policy which appears to have failed miserably as China is still struggling to cope with the daily rise in cases inside the country, according to Colombo Gazette.



The policy was introduced by the government in view of a resurge in coronavirus cases in China with 1,000 new cases being reported each day. The Covid policy has, however, led to fear, anger, and confusion among Chinese citizens caused by repeated lockdowns in vast areas.



The curbs were even more harsh and stringent in Xinjiang where residents kept pleading for food during the lockdown and in Tibetan capital Lhasa, angry crowds seen protesting in the streets after being at home for more than 90 days.



Moreover, after the severe Covid outbreak in August and September, Chinese officials imposed strict lockdowns in Xinjiang which resulted in some deaths of Uyghurs from starvation as well as lack of medical care, as per Radio Free Asia.

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[...] as per Radio Free Asia.

ja und was is damit?

https://www.rfa.org/english/ne…ation-09212022160907.html

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At least 22 people died of starvation or lack of medical attention on a single day last week under China’s COVID lockdown policies in the northern Xinjiang city of Ghulja, RFA has confirmed with police and bereaved family members.

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Zitat von Wikipedia - Radio Free Asia

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